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Paul Logue (Eden's Curse)

posted 25 Jul 2011, 12:24 by Paul Woodward   [ updated 25 Jul 2011, 12:27 ]
Hi Paul, this is Woody from Midlands Rocks; I hope you are doing well and up for talking about your band Eden’s Curse and upcoming third album “Trinity” due out on AFM records on 21st March?


Hey Woody; doing great bud! Sure thing … isn’t it March 21st already?”


LOL.. The band is just about to release your third album as I’ve said; is there much pressure to surpass the previous albums?


No pressure from the label(s) as such, no, but as writers there is always a self-centred desire from within to better the previous record. We were all big fans of “The Second Coming” and it’s the first time, as such, that I’ve really felt an expectation to match or even better the last record, which had some truly classic Eden’s Curse tracks on it by the way...”

Were the band ever pushed into to going heavier or changing style?


“We are the Captain of our own ship, so we have always decided what direction we will go in. We are also realists. Even though we’ve been together for five years now, we are still a relatively young band, so we are not about to change style or direction. You risk losing the fan base that you worked so hard, over the past five years, to create, all on an artistic whim. We may be the band members of Eden’s Curse, but we are also huge fans of our own music. We write first and foremost for ourselves, and we are so blessed that many people out there love what we do. It’s important to make honest albums, progress as writers and as a band, rather than playing it safe and producing the same album time and time again. There will only ever be one “Judgement Day”, “Fly Away”, “Sail On” or “Angels & Demons” – we feel we have written the next chapter in Eden’s Curse history.”

So the album has turned out the way you had hoped?

Our albums always seem to turn out better than I imagine actually, Ha! Ha! Because I write the initial ideas and record the initial demos, it’s truly wonderful for me to sit back and hear the finished product it with everyone’s parts and input added, wrapped in the sonic brilliance that Dennis Ward always creates.”


I think again that the band have created an album that can appeal to Melodic Rockers by being melodic enough but also appeal to Metallers by been heavy enough. Personally I think it’s the strongest of all the albums so far, mainly due the consistency in quality throughout. What are your favourite songs from the new album and any reasons why?


Well, I love the title track “Trinity” – it’s just classic “Curse” and is just a great opener! The keyboard and guitar solos are a real highlight. “No Holy Man” is another favourite, and it’s my ideal vision of what Eden’s Curse should sound like. It’s epic and Mike and James LaBrie just simply blend together amazingly well. Great message too in there!”

“Guardian Angel” was written about the birth of my daughter Emma and took me 3 years to write. Writing the first song for your child isn’t easy! I could have written any old rubbish, but it had to be perfect (to me) and I’m so damn proud of what we created. I hope Emma listens back in years to come and is moved by it. A sublime chorus by the quill of Pete Newdeck….”

“Rivers Of Destiny” was written for the second Place Vendome record, but was not selected. Frontiers Records loss is definitely our gain! I watched a television programme “Wife Swap” one evening and it featured a family who go on holiday to Africa every year and help deprived villages. Such devotion was amazing. This song lyrically is me saying how wonderful they are in their human actions, and the realisation that I would not be strong enough to offer up such a sacrifice. A bit of personal soul searching there. One of Mike Eden’s finest vocal performances ever!”


You have two guest appearances on “Trinity”; one from James Labrie (Dream Theater) as you mentioned & Andi Deris (Halloween/Pink Cream 69). How did these guest appearances come about? And did they need much convincing to do the songs you approached them with?


Well I hope not… It certainly didn’t seem that way. I remember sitting with Michael during the planning stages of "Trinity" and we said, “How in the hell are we going to top Tony Harnell (TNT/Starbreaker) and Pamela "Sister Mary" Moore? At the time, it appeared a daunting task, but not as daunting as topping James and Andi looks right now! GULP!!!”

“As always, we sat down, threw a bunch of names at each other and started from there. We then began to try and make the contacts. We only targeted three guys this time around – and ‘two out of three ain't bad’ (cue Meatloaf chorus, Ha! Ha!) eh? Tracking James down was the hardest, or so we thought, but within three hours of first discussing the idea, I received an email from him on my Blackberry. That was freaky!! James was and is an absolute Gentleman. We hit it off from the word go, and he absolutely adores the music. It was simply a case of aligning our schedules and working out a deal with him. He was brilliant to work with - the consummate professional - and continues to keep in touch with us on a fortnightly basis - in fact we’ve just launched our Promo Video for "No Holy Man", which is an awesome animation all about an evil TV Evangelist, and I know he loves it. Go check it out on”

“Andi couldn't have been more different. I had done some work for Kosta Zafiriou, drummer of Pink Cream 69, and Helloween Tour Manager; and he’d said, "If you ever need any help ...". So I asked, could he hook it up. He did, but I never spoke to Andi once. I just got his vocals in one day, on the Net and I was like, "WOW"! That was a really special moment for me. Anyone who knows me knows that I adore Pink Cream 69's music, and I've been listening to them since the late 80's. I love his voice! It's cool now; we have had both PC69 singers on our albums!”


The album also features a cover of Dio’s “Rock N Roll Children”. I presume this is in tribute to the late great Ronnie James Dio, but were you worried how the song would turn out? And what the public perception of the song would be? It’s always hard to cover a well-loved song, as some people will never accept it no matter what, so are you prepared for any possible criticism?


Yes… It’s a tribute most definitely, so I hope people see it for what it is! Michael was an acquaintance of Ronnie’s and was very fond of him. He called the studio whilst Pete was finishing the drum tracks to inform us of his passing. As you can imagine he was very upset and asked if we could squeeze a Dio song on as a tribute to Ronnie; we agreed. We really don’t care what anyone else thinks, and in this business you need a thick skin anyway; you most certainly cannot please everyone. We did the best we could and we hope wherever Ronnie, is he approves!”


The band came on to the scene with a bang, with the self titled debut album, garnering the band with lots of critical acclaim as well as building a small but loyal fan base. The second album “The Second Coming” may not have received the same high praise as the first but did see a progression as the band attempted to expand its fan base by getting out on the live circuit supporting Stratovarious & Alestorm. What does the band have up their sleeves this time to continue the bands progression?


I think the album itself is the ‘progression’. Everything about “Trinity” is bigger and better than “The Second Coming”. From the artwork, booklet, guests, the production, and the songs – it’s full on!!  The introduction of Alessandro (Del Vecchio – Keyboards) has helped immensely, as he’s much more modern in his approach… As a musician, he has dragged the band kicking and screaming into 2011 with his Kamelot-esque strings and flourishing solos. He has been a breath of fresh air.”


Does the Curse have any plans to tour, specifically here in the UK?


We have nothing concrete yet, sadly, but we are looking into it. Touring is incredibly expensive and there is not a lot of money floating around this genre, so let’s see!”


Whilst the band are technically “Melodic Metal”, the style of the band also appeals to the taste buds of fans into Melodic Hard Rock, so is there much chance of the band touring with bands in that vein? I have to admit Stratovarious are a bit heavy for me and although I deeply regret now missing seeing the band at JB’s Dudley (R.I.P) the bands you were supporting Alestorm and The Rotted scared the living hell out of my AOR loving eardrums! Is there much chance of hitting the road with a hard rock band?


It’ll all depend on the offers we get, if any! If we were doing a UK tour again it would most likely be a headline tour, and we’d look to bring some decent bands out with us…. The Alestorm/Rotted tour came about mainly because we shared the same manager – the best said about that, the better – but they were great shows in terms of band performances and some of the very best that Eden’s Curse has ever played.”


I wondered on that… Did the two UK tours you did in support of “The Second Coming” achieve what you wanted? I’m sure they did expand your fan base especially towards a more metallic audience who may have been unaware of the band prior to these gigs? Were the support slots hard to get?


Sure but I think they did achieve what we set out to do! Many people had had the band pigeon holed as a project, and it was vital for us that we got out on the live scene. To me, it’s the one vital component to making a break through in the scene. This band has a very good crossover appeal, so touring with the more Melodic Metal acts is definitely the way forward for Eden’s Curse.”
”Alestorm I’ve already mentioned, but Stratovarius / Firewind was hard and expensive to obtain, but a great tour for us.”


How important do you see playing live then? Or will you only play given the right opportunities?


As I said, it’s pivotal to breaking out and being noticed. Sadly for us, it comes down to the “right package” and the financial aspect. Being a multi-national band brings with it higher risks, and if the sums don’t add up, then we simply cannot afford to do it. If someone wants us badly enough then they will be prepared to pay what we need to do the show.”


The band is very multinational, yes; does this make say this album hard to record? As well as making it harder and/or more expensive to tour?


Touring is the hardest, most definitely, but recording albums is the complete opposite. It actually saves us a lot of money because having our own studios, we can maintain the quality and keep the costs at a reasonable level… It gives us tremendously relaxing recording environments to achieve the best performances that we possibly can. Piecing it all together, when it’s fully recorded, is a little time consuming, but simple project management is all that is required.”


The band have a very strong character in US singer Michael Eden; whilst his drive and desire for success is needed, he can be very outspoken and he can sometimes rub people up the wrong way. Do you wish sometimes he was less Outspoken? Or do his personality offer strengths to the band that you wouldn’t want to see subdued?


Well, I very much welcome Michael’s honest approach and have grown very much with it over the five years we’ve been band colleagues. Some people do not like others who “Tell it like it is” and that is a fact; whilst some don’t seem to mind it. I’m one of the former! I think whenever you have any level of success, no matter how moderate it may be, you will win false friends and many enemies, but don’t let that deter you from trying to succeed anyway! I also firmly believe that a person should only be judged by people who truly know them. It’s a sad day when you base an entire judgement on someone because of the way they post on a forum. Hell mend us all, if that’s the case!” 


In a music industry which many bemoan is devoid of true old fashioned “rockers”.....maybe a character like Mike is needed to make the break!?


Maybe! Mike lives and breathes music, more so than maybe everyone else in the band. He has worked damn hard at his craft and is extremely passionate for what we do together. I’m sure he would agree that it wouldn’t matter what assisted us in “making the break”, if we ever did … as long we did it together, that’s all that matters!”


What is your own personal highlight’s with the Curse so far?


Playing my home town of Glasgow, during the Stratovarius tour, was a goose bump moment that will never leave me!”


And, what have been your own personal lowlights with the Curse?


The fiasco that stopped Alessandro being permitted entry in the USA when we went to play at the ‘Melodic Rock Fest 2’ in Chicago. The knock on effect was disastrous! We had to cancel a proposed Live DVD and album recording, “Trinity” photo session and a vocal recording session, all at the same time!!”


Your previous band Cry Havoc were a band I thought showed a lot of promise with the album “Fuel That Feeds The Fire”; I was disappointed the band never continued. I do hear some little things in there that you could see as the seeds of the Curse, do you think, had the band continued, they would have evolved in style to be similar to the Curse?


Sadly, no. Different time, different people, different influences, and it led to a different sound.”


I’m curious as what would have happened with Cry Havoc had there been a little bit more money in the kitty? Would you ever consider returning to the sound of Cry Havoc with another band?


Most definitely nothing would have happened and nope. The end was always inevitable.”


Good luck with the new album; is there anything else you would like to add or say to Midlands Rocks readers?


Thanks Woody! As always, thanks to everyone out there who supports the band and our music! Now, go on! Dare to be different!”